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Michael S. Atkinson's avatar

Finally got around to seeing it myself and I agree. They could've stopped the film after the naval fight and broken it into two longer films and that even have been fine. Instead the Red Hulk think felt anticlimactic because we all knew he was going to go that way from the trailer.

Still fun, though.

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E. H. Lau's avatar

"Like Steve Rogers before him, Sam is a straight-up good guy trying to do his best in a difficult world." - that really summed up why I like Steve and Sam in the MCU so much! 😄

But, wow - I did not expect all those plotlines in one movie!

Also, a little sad to hear that the big Cap VS Red Hulk fight was a bit anticlimactic... ☹

Well, on the bright side, I think you've sufficiently lowered my expectations now, so that I can enjoy the movie when it comes to Disney+. So thanks for that! 😄😆

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Daniel Sherrier's avatar

In a few months, you can tell me how wrong I was. Happy to be of service!

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E. H. Lau's avatar

It's finally out on Disney+, and I found the movie to be a fun, enjoyable-enough romp with mostly alright action scenes, in spite of trying to be a sequel to three to four different things.

And if I had gone in expecting something as deep or thought-provoking as the Steve Rogers Cap trilogy or The Falcon and the Winter Soldier TV show, then I would have been pretty disappointed...

So..., thank you for lowering my expectations? 😅😆

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Daniel Sherrier's avatar

Happy to be of service! Glad you found it enjoyable enough!

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Renaldy Calixte's avatar

I feel like these are constructive criticisms and I do think perhaps my B minus of the film is a bit too generous of a score for the film. However at the same time I think Marvel's storytelling model isn't good but the movie itself has enough in it that makes it entertaining to me despite its structural and storytelling issues.

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Daniel Sherrier's avatar

That's a fair assessment. I'd probably give it a C+, so we're not too far off. There were scenes where I found it entertaining despite the overall flaws, but the more I thought about it, the more missed opportunities I noticed.

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David Perlmutter's avatar

"Ever since the 1960s, Marvel Comics has excelled at casting the superhero as the underdog."

For a long time, that was a key part of their brand, and I assume Stan Lee meant that to be the case when he and the artists dreamed up everybody. Their heroes are largely ordinary people who became super-powerful through forces beyond their control, and who continued to wear their "normalness" as a badge of honor among villains. Besides which, Lee originally meant the books to appeal to children and teenagers, who know what being an underdog is like better than anyone else.

Disney has shown a great deal of disrespect towards this writing tradition by forcing Marvel to chase after the almighty dollar with their overly connected and controlled "universe". The best characters of this kind need to stand alone well first and then be incorporated into a wider operational universe. Marvel would be better served under a different corporate landlord. Under those circumstances maybe Sam Wilson would have been treated better than being the token Black "woke" signifier he seems to be here.

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